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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://annehodgson.de/2010/02/28/grammar-guru-watching-an-old-film-on-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-3703</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex Case has loads of worksheets/ aftivities for the present perfect here:
http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/worksheets/grammar/present-perfect/comment-page-1/#comment-9595</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex Case has loads of worksheets/ aftivities for the present perfect here:<br />
<a href="http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/worksheets/grammar/present-perfect/comment-page-1/#comment-9595" rel="nofollow">http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/worksheets/grammar/present-perfect/comment-page-1/#comment-9595</a></p>
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		<title>By: Englischlinks der Woche - Englisch lernen</title>
		<link>http://annehodgson.de/2010/02/28/grammar-guru-watching-an-old-film-on-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-3702</link>
		<dc:creator>Englischlinks der Woche - Englisch lernen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://annehodgson.de/2010/02/28/grammar-guru-watching-an-old-film-on-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-3696</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Chris, on the contrary, I really love this experimenting and probing, I&#039;m not your Miss Know it all. At all. (PS: Ok, I know you were pulling my leg, but it had to be said, lest there be misconceptions about what this here blog is about.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Chris, on the contrary, I really love this experimenting and probing, I&#8217;m not your Miss Know it all. At all. (PS: Ok, I know you were pulling my leg, but it had to be said, lest there be misconceptions about what this here blog is about.)</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://annehodgson.de/2010/02/28/grammar-guru-watching-an-old-film-on-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-3695</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>readers can be soooo annoying sometimes eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>readers can be soooo annoying sometimes eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://annehodgson.de/2010/02/28/grammar-guru-watching-an-old-film-on-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-3694</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was total *fail* on my part, but I was asking for it. 

Depending on the friends you&#039;re sharing the sofa with, you&#039;d say any number of things, but most pobably not the *correct* answer. 

Basically that shows a few things:
1. you can seriously mess up a forced choice exercise unless you consider sufficient amounts of data
2. you can&#039;t predict what &quot;real people&quot; will say in a situation, you need to analyze it after it emerges
3. I am all too often cowed by prescriptive grammarians into teaching &quot;correct&quot; grammar, even when I know better.
So, thank you for reading this confessional.

Now to our results:
You watch an old film on TV for the first time. Afterwards, what do you say?

    * &quot;This is the first time I&#039;ve seen this film.&quot; You use the present perfect because it&#039;s about your experience so far. (76%, 13 votes)
    * &quot;This is the first time I saw this film.&quot; You use the past tense because the film is over. (18%, 3 votes)
    * &quot;This is the first time I see this film.&quot; You use the present tense because it&#039;s true now. (6%, 1 vote) 

Extra entries:
4. They don’t make films like that anymore. (Chris)
5. Joan, you wouldn&#039;t say any of this, would you? 
6. That was the first time I’d seen it. (Nicky)
7. That was the first time I saw that film. I wouldn&#039;t really say that, either. I&#039;d say &quot;What a great film.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was total *fail* on my part, but I was asking for it. </p>
<p>Depending on the friends you&#8217;re sharing the sofa with, you&#8217;d say any number of things, but most pobably not the *correct* answer. </p>
<p>Basically that shows a few things:<br />
1. you can seriously mess up a forced choice exercise unless you consider sufficient amounts of data<br />
2. you can&#8217;t predict what &#8220;real people&#8221; will say in a situation, you need to analyze it after it emerges<br />
3. I am all too often cowed by prescriptive grammarians into teaching &#8220;correct&#8221; grammar, even when I know better.<br />
So, thank you for reading this confessional.</p>
<p>Now to our results:<br />
You watch an old film on TV for the first time. Afterwards, what do you say?</p>
<p>    * &#8220;This is the first time I&#8217;ve seen this film.&#8221; You use the present perfect because it&#8217;s about your experience so far. (76%, 13 votes)<br />
    * &#8220;This is the first time I saw this film.&#8221; You use the past tense because the film is over. (18%, 3 votes)<br />
    * &#8220;This is the first time I see this film.&#8221; You use the present tense because it&#8217;s true now. (6%, 1 vote) </p>
<p>Extra entries:<br />
4. They don’t make films like that anymore. (Chris)<br />
5. Joan, you wouldn&#8217;t say any of this, would you?<br />
6. That was the first time I’d seen it. (Nicky)<br />
7. That was the first time I saw that film. I wouldn&#8217;t really say that, either. I&#8217;d say &#8220;What a great film.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://annehodgson.de/2010/02/28/grammar-guru-watching-an-old-film-on-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-3681</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for some real language :)  The present perfect is just fucked if you come from the wrong side of the Atlantic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for some real language <img src='http://annehodgson.de/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   The present perfect is just fucked if you come from the wrong side of the Atlantic.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I&#039;d probably say &quot;That was the first time I&#039;d seen it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I&#8217;d probably say &#8220;That was the first time I&#8217;d seen it.&#8221;</p>
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