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		<title>Grammar Guru: for or since?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve known Theo _______ 5 years.  Is it for or since? Easy:



I&#8217;ve known him for a long time, it seems.
I&#8217;ve known him since he showed me his collection of old records and we discovered that we share a hobby.
Incorrect: I know him for a long time -&#62; I&#8217;ve known him for a long time.

Compare my [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">I&#8217;ve known Theo _______ 5 years.  Is it <strong>for</strong> or <strong>since</strong>? Easy:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://annehodgson.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/for-since.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-14278 aligncenter" title="for-since" src="http://annehodgson.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/for-since-300x259.jpg" alt="for-since" width="300" height="259" /></a></p>
<ul>
<li>I&#8217;ve known him<strong> for</strong> a long time, it seems.</li>
<li>I&#8217;ve known him <strong>since</strong> he showed me his collection of old records and we discovered that we share a hobby.</li>
<li>Incorrect: <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">I know him for a long time</span> <strong>-&gt;</strong> I&#8217;<strong>ve known</strong> him for a long time.</li>
</ul>
<p>Compare my <strong><a href="http://annehodgson.de/2010/06/29/grammar-guru-until-or-by/">chart for &#8220;until/ by&#8221;</a></strong><em>. </em>I developed these charts a few years ago and get a lot of mileage out of them.<em><br />
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		<title>Grammar Guru: until or by?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#8217;re going camping and want to borrow a friend&#8217;s tent over the weekend. So you say: &#8220;Could I have it ______ Friday afternoon? We&#8217;re leaving on Friday after work.&#8221;
 
Until or by?


Until means from now until then.
By, used for deadlines, means not later than then.
By&#8230; at the latest!
Imagine: If you said “until Friday”, your friend [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re going camping and want to borrow a friend&#8217;s tent over the weekend. So you say: &#8220;Could I have it ______ Friday afternoon? We&#8217;re leaving on Friday after work.&#8221;<br />
<strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>Until</strong> or <strong>by</strong>?</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://annehodgson.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/by.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-14123  aligncenter" title="by" src="http://annehodgson.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/by-300x102.jpg" alt="by" width="387" height="131" /></a></p>
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<li><strong>Until</strong> means from now until then.</li>
<li><strong>By</strong>, used for deadlines, means not later than then.</li>
<li><strong>By&#8230; at the latest!</strong></li>
<li>Imagine: If you said “until Friday”, your friend might say “Sure, until   Friday is fine. But I need it on Saturday, so can you come round on   Saturday morning to drop it off?”</li>
<li>Here&#8217;s an <a href="http://www.spotlight-online.de/language/grammar/finding-the-lost-symbol-by-and-until" target="_blank">exercise on using &#8220;until&#8221; and &#8220;by&#8221;, with a pdf</a>.</li>
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		<title>Grammar Guru: I asked her how much&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://annehodgson.de/2010/05/25/grammar-guru-i-asked-her-how-much/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 14:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;How much do I need to pay?&#8221;
I asked her how much&#8230;

 do I need to pay.
did I need to pay.
I need to pay.
I needed to pay.

This is reported speech and a quoted, or indirect, question. Two rules apply:

Make the verb match the tense of the reporting verb, &#8220;asked&#8221; (change it into the past tense)
Use sentence [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How much do I need to pay?&#8221;</p>
<p>I asked her how much&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li> <label for="poll-answer-101">do I need to pay.</label></li>
<li><label for="poll-answer-102">did I need to pay.</label></li>
<li><label for="poll-answer-104">I need to pay.</label></li>
<li><label for="poll-answer-104">I needed to pay.</label></li>
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<p>This is reported speech and a quoted, or indirect, question. Two rules apply:</p>
<ol>
<li>Make the verb match the tense of the reporting verb, &#8220;asked&#8221; (change it into the past tense)</li>
<li>Use sentence order, not question order in the quoted question part.</li>
</ol>
<p><a href="http://www.google.de/search?hl=en&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;hs=sgG&amp;rls=org.mozilla%3Ade%3Aofficial&amp;q=%22I+asked+her+how+much+I+needed+to+pay%22&amp;aq=f&amp;aqi=&amp;aql=&amp;oq=&amp;gs_rfai=">There is one correct answer</a>. However, you may find the others used, too, and by people who speak perfect English. Why?</p>
<p>First of all, we sometimes quote direct questions and it&#8217;s not always easy to hear the quotation marks! Just think of this line from Paul Simon&#8217;s &#8220;50 Ways to Leave your Lover&#8221;: &#8220;She said why don&#8217;t we both just sleep on it tonight.&#8221;</p>
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<p>And secondly, we adapt the tense in the reported speech to our frame of reference, which can be wider than just the situation at the time of speaking.</p>
<p>Compare:</p>
<ul>
<li>I asked her what she was talking about. (The frame of reference is the situation at the time.)</li>
<li>I asked her when she was/ is planning to move. (The frame of reference is is wider than just the situation at the time.)</li>
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		<title>Grammar Guru: Must or has got to?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 14:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
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This week&#8217;s question is one of business register.
From an order form: &#8220;Please note that payment for food platters ___________ be received in advance.&#8221;
Must or has got to?
How would you say the same thing to a customer?



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<p>This week&#8217;s question is one of business register.</p>
<p>From an order form: &#8220;Please note that payment for food platters ___________ be received in advance.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.de/search?hl=en&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;hs=e7x&amp;rls=org.mozilla%3Ade%3Aofficial&amp;q=%22payment+must+be+received%22&amp;aq=f&amp;aqi=&amp;aql=&amp;oq=&amp;gs_rfai=" target="_blank">Must or has got to</a>?</p>
<p>How would you say the same thing to a customer?</p>

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		<title>Grammar Guru: Needs to be done, or needs being done?</title>
		<link>http://annehodgson.de/2010/04/25/grammar-guru-needs-to-be-done-or-needs-being-done/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can say &#8220;This laptop needs repairs&#8221; and, very elegant: &#8220;This laptop needs repairing.&#8221;
But which of these two is correct:

&#8220;This laptop needs to be repaired.&#8221;
&#8220;This laptop needs being repaired.&#8221;

Yes, unfortunately I&#8217;ve worked my poor laptop so hard that it&#8217;s got several hardware problems now. One key sometimes doesn&#8217;t work (the 9), and the right loudspeaker [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can say<strong> &#8220;This laptop needs repairs</strong>&#8221; and, very elegant: &#8220;<strong>This laptop needs repairing.</strong>&#8221;</p>
<p>But which of these two is correct:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>&#8220;This laptop </strong><strong>needs to be repaired</strong>.&#8221;</li>
<li><strong>&#8220;This laptop</strong> <strong>needs being repaired</strong>.&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<p>Yes, unfortunately I&#8217;ve worked my poor laptop so hard that it&#8217;s got several hardware problems now. One key sometimes doesn&#8217;t work (the 9), and the right loudspeaker sometimes goes silent on me. That must have to do with the many lunches I have had too close to the keyboard — and my somewhat percussive style of typing. You see, I was a real idiot when I was a teen and refused to learn to type with ten fingers, saying I didn&#8217;t want to be stuck in an office job. — So what do I do for a living today? Creative typing! And loud! And bouncy!</p>
<p>Another problem: The DVD-ROM drive doesn&#8217;t read discs ever since I dropped my laptop case one black day. I&#8217;ve got about 1/2 of my music collection imported onto this baby (and backed up) and have switched to iTunes for new stuff, but sometimes it&#8217;s nice to be able to play a DVD, you know?</p>
<p>OK, dear Apple Store, I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;m going to have to bite the bullet and ask for an estimate. Is having repairs done going to be cheaper than a new laptop? Fingers crossed!</p>
<p>Guess what, Mr. Desktop, I&#8217;m coming back to you for a week. But don&#8217;t get your hopes up, baby, this is strictly temporary.</p>
<p>But first, I&#8217;m off to give a seminar for a few days. So, just in case, here&#8217;s your <a href="http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;hs=8xI&amp;rls=org.mozilla%3Ade%3Aofficial&amp;q=%22needs+to+be+repaired%22&amp;meta=&amp;aq=f&amp;aqi=&amp;aql=&amp;oq=&amp;gs_rfai=" target="_blank">answer</a>.</p>

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		<title>Grammar Guru: Referring to general knowledge</title>
		<link>http://annehodgson.de/2010/04/19/grammar-guru-referring-to-general-knowledge/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do you refer to general knowledge?
&#8220;_____________ flights all over  Europe are cancelled because of the volcano.&#8221;

They say
Something tells me
One says

Related news:

Lufthansa is reportedly going to try to sue the German government for damages.
John Cleese is alleged to have spent thousands to get from Oslo to Brussels&#8230; by taxi!




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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you refer to general knowledge?</p>
<p>&#8220;_____________ flights all over  Europe are cancelled because of the volcano.&#8221;</p>
<ul>
<li>They say</li>
<li>Something tells me</li>
<li>One says</li>
</ul>
<p>Related news:</p>
<ul>
<li>Lufthansa is reportedly going to try to sue the German government for damages.</li>
<li>John Cleese is alleged to have spent thousands to get from Oslo to Brussels&#8230; by taxi!</li>
</ul>

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Danny Granger, American professional basketball player for the NBA&#8217;s Indiana Pacers, famously knocked out his two front teeth in a victorious game against the Boston Celtics on 1 November 2008. You can say both of these:

He knocked out two teeth.
He knocked two teeth out.

But you can only say [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ok, this guy&#8217;s knocked out some teeth here:</strong></p>
<p><strong><img class="alignnone" title="Granger" src="http://www.bothteamsplayedhard.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/granger-teeth-2.jpg" alt="" width="425" height="387" /><br />
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<p>Danny Granger, American professional basketball player for the NBA&#8217;s Indiana Pacers, famously knocked out his two front teeth in a victorious game against the Boston Celtics on 1 November 2008. You can say both of these:</p>
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<li>He knocked out two teeth.</li>
<li>He knocked two teeth out.</li>
</ul>
<p>But you can only say one of these:</p>
<ul>
<li>He knocked out them.</li>
<li>He knocked them out.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Compare</strong>: &#8220;knock out&#8221; is a <strong>phrasal verb</strong> like:<br />
put away (<em>aufräumen</em>), bring up (<em>=mention</em>), try out, give up, call up, rip off (=<em>steal</em>), think over, boss around (<em>herumkomandieren</em>), make up (=<em>invent</em>)<br />
They all use the structure of &#8220;knock <strong>it</strong> out.&#8221;<br />
There are lots of <a href="http://www.eflnet.com/pverbs/index.php" target="_blank">lists  and exercises here.</a> Try <strong>them</strong> out!</p>
<p><strong>Contrast</strong> regular <strong>two part verbs</strong>:<br />
fall for, bump into, get over, look at, go up, fall down&#8230;<br />
Look at <strong>them</strong>!</p>
<p><a href="http://annehodgson.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Knock-‘em-out.pdf">Knock ‘em out</a></p>

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